Monday, June 15, 2009



ADF attorneys consider appeal of Ten Commandments ruling

We read:
"Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund are reviewing possible options for appeal after a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit Monday reversed a lower court decision that upheld the constitutionality of a Ten Commandments display at the Haskell County, Oklahoma, Courthouse. The American Civil Liberties Union filed suit to have the monument removed on behalf of a man who claims he was offended by it.

“Americans shouldn’t be forced to abandon their religious heritage simply to appease someone’s political agenda,” said ADF Senior Counsel Kevin Theriot. “There is no difference between this Ten Commandments display and the one at the Texas state capitol that was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court nearly five years ago. This one, like that one, was donated and paid for by a private individual and displayed among numerous other monuments to veterans, pioneers, and others. The emotional response of a single, offended passerby does not amount to a violation of the Establishment Clause.”

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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is precisely why the Left worked so hard, for so long, to do away with the concept of majority-rule in our country. That one person, "allegedly" offended, can alter the strongly-held beliefs of tens-of-millions of people. It's a cute way of using the courts to force people to agree with you. It's also one of the reasons Amerika, as we know it, won't be here to celebrate it's next bicentennial.

Flu-Bird said...

Are liberals afraid that the ten comandments becuase its states out rules they always break

Anonymous said...

QUOTABLE QUOTES
"Too many alleged adults are hooked on the Sounds of Silence. Too many alleged adults take the easy way out by snuffing out speech that they can’t handle, or just plain don’t like. Too many alleged adults seem to forget that the Sounds of Silence are the quiet that proceeds the thunder of jackboots goose-stepping over our liberty."
– Hambo

David W. Hunter said...

Anon 3:05. Is majority rule always a good thing? 200 years ago the majority believed women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I think the point to all this is that even if the majority hold a certain belief, they should in no way be able to stop or curtail another belief. Everyone should be able to choose what they believe

However, this DOES NOT apply to the offended person mentioned in the article. Theriot hit the nail on the head. Including the 10 Commandments in a historical display does not violate the Establishment Clause. The "victim" and ACLU need to be billed for the wasted taxpayer money required to pay for the court case.

Nutcase said...

News flash morons:

THERE IS NO "ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE" in the constitution!

The word "ESTABLISH” is simply to forbid CONGRESS or the U.S. government from dictating what religion or church we go to (or don't go to). Having the Tem Commandments in the courthouse is an acknowledgment of what our laws are based on. BTW there is a huge painting of them on the wall in the Supreme Court.

If you do not understand what an “Established” state religion looks like, take a look at the church of England.

Unfortunately most liberals and Atheists don't read the entire First Amendment. For those with little brain power, here it is:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

I also want to take issue with the moron in the White house who recently stated we were a "Muslim Nation" because we have more Muslims than the any other country.

Stupid and false on it's face.

If you want to use this idiots "reasoning" we are a Jewish nation, because there are more Jews in the U.S. than in Israel.

See what a lack of understanding and a lot of pandering and just plain stupidity gets you?

Barack Obama!

Stupid is as stupid does!

Anonymous said...

Calm down Anon 5:22. Most here are still capable of thinking, so we know there's no such thing as a separation of church and state in the Constitution. Unfortunately, it's what the liberal courts think and say that counts, not us. As you correctly point out, the Constitution states "only" that the govt. shall not establish a religion.

This topic should make the upcoming "shoe-in" of Judge Sotomayor to the SCOTUS very interesting to watch, or perhaps, make many of us throw up! For me, it will be the latter.

David W. Hunter said...

Nutcase,
Don’t throw stones.

The ENTIRE First Amendment says,
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

The Establishment Clause is the first pronouncement, just as the Free Exercise Clause is the second pronouncement. And, since the devil is in the details, a clause is, “A distinct article in a formal document” or “A group of words containing a subject and predicate and functioning as a member of a complex or compound sentence”. Both apply here.

All Mr. Theriot is saying is that including the Ten Commandments in a historical display in a courthouse is not an attempt to establish a state religion.

BTW, I looked at your website. You make some good points. I didn't vote for him either. However, people will take you more seriously if you tone it down a bit. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

David W. Hunter said...
"Is majority rule always a good thing? 200 years ago the majority believed women and minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote."

As it's turned out, they were right.


"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."
Thomas Jefferson

David W. Hunter said...

Anon 3:58,
I'm not sure I follow you. It sounds like you say the people were right that women and minorities shouldn't vote, but Jefferson's quote says fjor the majority will to "be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."

The majority has no right to oppress the minority. Did I misunderstand your use of the quote?

Anonymous said...

Yes, the Judeo-Christian religion had an obvious influence on the laws of Europe and America, but for today's America,it would surely be better to highlight some extracts from the US Constitution, or even the thoughts of some famous philosophers, rather than the 'Ten Commandments', especially as there are more than one version in the Old Testament, and that it deals with inappropriate livestock and idol worship - whether or not the principles are more important than references to ancient middle eastern cultures!