Friday, July 24, 2009




British schoolboy is first convicted of racist abuse of classmate

Bullying is very common at school and very little is normally done about it despite a lot of puffed-up talk. Additionally, blacks are often abusive and intimidating to whites (read the second post down here if you doubt it) but I have yet to hear of a black kid going to jail over it
"A schoolboy is facing the threat of a year in a young offenders' institute after he became the first to be convicted of racially harrassing a fellow pupil.

The 15-year-old boy, who cannot be named, caused a 14-year-old classmate to attempt suicide by repeatedly calling her "wog, coon, nigger, gorilla and golliwog" for six months. Lincoln magistrates, who convicted the boy of racially aggravated harassment, heard that the girl took a mixture of pills and wrote a goodbye note to her family. The behaviour of the boy, who had no previous convictions, was condemned as "merciless" last night by anti-racism campaigners.

However, his conviction - the first for the crime over an incident in a school - prompted questions over whether such bullying should be dealt with through criminal law. David Green, the director of Civitas, the right-leaning think-tank, said that while the boy's behaviour should be condemned, "the law does not belong in the schoolyard in these cases".

"We are not talking stabbings or serious assault here," Dr Green said. "This should be a matter for the school and the children's parents." Josie Appleton, the director of the anti-regulation think-tank the Manifesto Club, which will publish a paper on schools' obligations over racist incidents this autumn, added: "This should be dealt with in the school.

"Criminalising it undermines the authority of schools. Teachers have to be able to set a moral example."

The boy, who denied the charge, was convicted after a six-hour trial. He will be sentenced on August 13. He faces a maximum two-year detention and training order, including 12 months in a young offenders' institute.

However, Sunil Khanna, the boy's solicitor, said: "I'm not sure a criminal prosecution was the right way forward. "I know this goes beyond normal bullying, but mistakes that might have been down to youthful ignorance will now stick with him years."

The boy's grandfather said: “It's difficult to know what to believe, they can make more out of court cases sometimes than there is. He has always protested his innocence and we are not a racist family.”

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20 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is the law of political correctness. Get used to it because you can very easily become it's victim!

Use the Name, Luke said...

"The 15-year-old boy, who cannot be named, caused a 14-year-old classmate to attempt suicide … the girl took a mixture of pills and wrote a goodbye note to her family."

"“We are not talking stabbings or serious assault here,” Dr Green said. “This should be a matter for the school and the children’s parents.”"

Hmmm. So causing the death of someone (or nearly so) is not serious because he used words instead of physical contact? This was very serious.

As I was thinking about this, I realized that in the U.S., there are laws on the books which criminalize harassment. I presume Britain has had similar laws for a very long time:

"Harassment is a crime. If proven, depending on the severity and frequency of the conduct and the harasser's prior criminal record, harassment can be punishable as either a gross misdemeanor or a felony."

"Criminal harassment is defined as "engag(ing) in intentional conduct which the actor [harasser] knows or has reason to know would cause the victim, under the circumstances, to feel frightened, threatened, oppressed, persecuted, or intimidated; and causes this reaction on the part of the victim."

Harassing a girl so badly that she attempts suicide strikes me as a clear case of criminal harassment, probably felony grade. It's nothing new to treat such harassment as criminal behavior. What makes them think it's "being ciminalized?"

Causing another person's death is always criminal.

Mongo said...

Luke said, "Causing another person's death is always criminal."

Except of course for The Bush/Chenney war and capital punishment.

Use the Name, Luke said...

Geez! Picky, picky.

Here's a correction:

Causing another person's unjustified death is always criminal. That would be murder, negligence, etc. Deaths from legal wars, the death penalty (after due process), and active self defense are justified deaths.

Anonymous said...

None of us was there in the school yard. Kids can be very cruel and kids can lie and be drama queens. As a teacher for 40 years, i do not believe half the stuff i hear from school kids. I have seen cases where some little girl claimed a boy raped her and when the truth came out, he refused to notice her so she claimed rape to get even. I know of many cases like this. So people please. The British courts are notoriously politically correct and are usually a bunch of asskissers when it comes to minorities.

Mongo said...

Anon 1:17, tell us what you really think. You are a fine representative of conservatism.

Anonymous said...

"None of us was there in the school yard."

Anon 1:11, You were a school teacher for FORTY years and you can't get the past tense of the verb 'to be' right?

That said, I agree with your points. That stuff DOES happen.

Anonymous said...

I am not anon 1:11 but there is nothing wrong with the verb used in that sentence? Perhaps your knowledge of English grammar is at fault not the teacher's! (If you want help, "none" is singular so "was" follows.)

Anonymous said...

None of us WERE there, is the correct conjugation.

Anonymous said...

No it isn't - I repeat "none" is in the singular ("none" = "no one", so it means - "no person here WAS there".) "of us" does not conjugate with the verb as it is not the noun in the sentence.
Similarly "everyone in the audience WAS shocked".

Anonymous said...

"The 15-year-old boy, who cannot be named, caused a 14-year-old classmate to attempt suicide by repeatedly calling her "wog, coon, nigger, gorilla and golliwog" for six months."
So, when are they going to sue the school for not preventing this behavior? Shouldn't this child have been sent to a school counselor? If every child who had been called a name committed suicide, we would have no children left.
Did she ever talk with her parents about it? Did others testify to hearing him call her names? If so, can they also be held responsible for not correcting such behavior? If not, isn't it a "she said, he said" case?

Anonymous said...

Words of wisdom from Anon 1:11.

Anonymous said...

None isn't singular. Singular refers to ONE. None refers to, well, none. one less than one. zero is NOT singular.

Zero is unquantifiable, it could refer to millions of things that aren't there.

Say the phrase again out loud. "None of us was there to see it." It even SOUNDS like something an idiot would say!

Try quantifying the 'us'. "Not one of the dozens of people who read this website WERE there to see it." THAT's correct English.

Anonymous said...

"Us" cannot be the noun in the sentence, or else it would be "we". The noun in the sentence is "none" and that means "not a one" as in "nobody" / "not a body" which is therefore singular. Not a body WAS there. Not a one WAS there. I'm sorry if you think correct English sounds idiotic, just because you are used to speaking incorrect English!
In your example "Not one of the dozens of people who read this website ...", "one" is the noun and as it is singular (referring to each one of the people), the verb must be "was" not "were".

Anonymous said...

continued ..I should have called "none" the 'subject' in the sentence rather than just 'noun'.
Zero as a subject noun in a sentence is also singular, as in "Zero is a mathematical concept".

Anonymous said...

OHHHH PLEASE GET OVER THE GRAMMER LESSONS !

Anonymous said...

You need spelling lessons too - it's "grammar" not "grammer" - go back to school!

Anonymous said...

another nick picking jerk, this is a blog, not some intellectual thesis. Stay on the subject,leave the spelling and grammAr lessons to the mind numbed cool aid drinking barryites.

Anonymous said...

Someone chose to criticize an experienced teacher for using incorrect English when it wasn't incorrect, and then persisted in claiming it was incorrect. Why should he get away with it?
Also, people are free to discuss what they want, not what you think they should!

Anonymous said...

It seesm to me that the subject of this blog is a about some kid calling another kid names, not some senile teacher who forgets a grammar rule. I wish i was perfect like lots of the morons in here that forget the subject matter of this blog. Get over the grammar lessons and move on with commenting on the SUBJECT of this blog.
I think the boy should apologise and let life continue onward. But nooooo, not in politically correct England.. You have to throw a kid in jail for a school yard incident. Seems like England returning to an earlier time in their history when they threw children in jail. I think they should throw gordon brown and the rest of his liberal ass munching government in jail for destroying a great country.