Saturday, May 07, 2011

TN: ACLU claims schools endorsed Christianity

We read:
"A complaint made by American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee on behalf of three Sumner County families accuses the Sumner County Board of Education of promoting Christianity and violating the U.S. Constitution. ...

The complaint alleges several examples of the school system promoting Christianity, including the distribution of Bibles in at least two schools; a teacher who displayed a cross on a classroom wall; sectarian prayers over the loudspeaker and at school events; and graduation ceremonies for three high schools at Long Hollow Baptist Church."

The complaint seeks an injunction to stop the religious activities. It is not a lawsuit at this point, Southerland said on Monday.

The complaint further alleges members of a Bible study club at Madison Creek Elementary were on a daily basis “permitted to pray over the loudspeaker for all school children to hear.”

Hood, who has worked at Madison Creek the past seven years as a classroom teacher and assistant principal, said the allegations are untrue. “We observe a moment of silence over the intercom in the mornings before school,” Hood said.

The complaint alleges students at Indian Lake Elementary were instructed to line up outside their classroom and pick up a Bible from a table if they wanted one. The children were instructed by their teacher to write their names in it, according to the complaint.

In an interview on April 22, Director of Schools Benny Bills defended holding commencement ceremonies at Long Hollow Baptist, saying the church is ideal because of its space and location and that it doesn’t charge fees.

Source

Mostly exaggeration and nitpicking by the sound of it.

30 comments:

sig said...

Sorry, but the United States Constitution absolutely and specifically refers to Christianity because it was signed by the signatories "...in the year of our Lord...." Just who do you think that "Lord" refers to? It's not the King of England. It's not Allah. It's a direct reference to Jesus Christ.

Denying the truth of the past doesn't change the facts.

Anonymous said...

So is the USA a theocracy or not? Seems like it is!

Anonymous said...

2:24 - How on earth do you come to that conclusion? What is the Federal religion if we are a theocracy?

Anonymous said...

"What is the Federal religion if we are a theocracy?"

Sig already answered your question, "Christianity". Please be more observant before you post.

Anonymous said...

Whether the US is a theocracy or not, to the outside world it seems dominated by religiosity. And anyone running for President or high office has to be (or has to pretend to be) a church-going Christian. And 'God' is even on the US currency, and state motto.

Anonymous said...

Well, "In Nothing We Trust", the only acceptable motto for the atheists doesn't inspire much confidence.

Nutcase said...

Would somebody please, PLEASE send a copy of the constitution to the ACLU? STAT!

NOWHERE in there does it have the words "wall of separation." That was in a letter from Jefferson to a church.

The constitution clearly states the FEDERAL government can not ESTABLISH a religion (i.e. the church or England)m it says NOTHING about favoring one!

President John F. Kennedy once said, "The greatest enemy of truth is often not the lie, deliberate, contrived, and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." One of the greatest deceptions ever perpetrated upon modern America has been through the myth of the "Wall of Separation between Church and State."

THAT, from a Democrat!

Anonymous said...

I must've missed the part in the Constitution (the US one, not the ACLU doctrine) that prohibits speech if someone hearing it doesn't like it. Can't find that part...

Anonymous said...

3:47 AM So you think the only alternative for 'God' is 'Nothing'? Atheists would not agree with you.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:37,
Sig already answered your question, "Christianity". Please be more observant before you post.

Taking notice of Christianity is not the same thing as establishing a theocracy. It is not the same as establishing a Federal religion either.

Please be more observant before you post.

Anonymous said...

3:47 AM So you think the only alternative for 'God' is 'Nothing'? Atheists would not agree with you.

In 'ManBearPig' we trust...
In 'Midi-Chlorians' we trust...
In 'Something - as long as it's not a God' we trust...

Meh. I tried.

~Darko

Use the Name, Luke said...

So you think the only alternative for 'God' is 'Nothing'? Atheists would not agree with you.

By definition, atheism is a belief that there is no God:

a·the·ist

[ey-thee-ist]

–noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.


A god:no god, some thing:no thing. ("Nothing," as in there is nothing in the place of god.) Hmm, I don't see any middle ground to allow room for disagreement.

Anonymous said...

Now, now Luke. You know how much atheists and leftists hate facts.

Anonymous said...

Luke - you are just being cute with your pointless definitions. The alternative of 'God' can be many things beside 'nothing' or 'atheism'. It can be a belief or interest in all manner of things. It could be a belief that the Universe was created by the Devil or inter-dimentional aliens.

Anonymous said...

To clarify: Not believing in 'God' doesn't necessarily mean believing in 'nothing' but not believing in 'God' or gods is a-theism.
'God' can be defined in many ways but as an explanation of a first-cause, it is vague and a matter of opinion. 'Nothing' is not an explanation at all and is illogical. Logic suggests there is an explanation though it probably can never be known or proved by humans.

Anonymous said...

Conservaties and religionists discard facts that do not suit their beliefs.

joey said...

Man is by nature religious. If he does not have a god he will create one. Self, power, pantheism or anything.

Anonymous said...

And the 'God' humans invent is so patently anthropomorphic and anthropocentric, that it's like a child's fairy-story - and not so unakin to Santa Claus who brings you presents if you're "nice" and not if you "naughty" - much like the promise of Heaven/Hell.

Anonymous said...

"Conservaties and religionists discard facts that do not suit their beliefs."

It's funny that those that believe in God are accused of discarding facts that do not suit their beliefs when those that deny God will believe the most outrageous and unbelievable things. If I found a smartphone on the ground and made the statement that it was formed on the earth by natural processes, I would be laughed at and ridiculed and rightly so. The simplest bacterium on earth is more complex than the smartphone by many orders of magnitude, is so small you can't even see it without a microscope, and it can replicate itself! Yet, those that deny there is a God are forced to believe in evolution to avoid God.

Spurwing Plover said...

The ACLU is a leftist group of sinister commie scumballs they need to be totaly abolished

Anonymous said...

4:57 AM Your analogy of the smartphone is just a variation of one that's been dismissed many times, because it is comparing inanimate machinery that's known to be man-made with natural phenomena (living cells) whose origin or evolution is the subject of scientific inquiry. You try to short-cut this by attributing all causes and processes to "God", which explains nothing except a vague definition of 'God' (aka "God of the Gaps" argument.

Anonymous said...

"forced to believe in evolution to avoid God"
Many christians do believe in biological evolution as just another natural process that God created or devised.

Anonymous said...

"those that deny God will believe the most outrageous and unbelievable things."

There you go again - making up shit, standard operating procedure for religionists.

Anonymous said...

natural phenomena (living cells) whose origin or evolution is the subject of scientific inquiry

I look forward to scientific inquiry. In 150 years of looking for missing links in the fossil record no legitimatelink has been found. Evolution is based on beneficial mutations. No beneficial mutation has EVER been observed. All mutations are fatal or crippling. Sorry, evolution is philosophy not science.

Anonymous said...

"Sorry, evolution is philosophy not science."

Spoken like a true creationist. LOL.

Anonymous said...

Evidence of biological evolution does not rely on fossils. Genetics alone would confirm it. "Missing links" in fossils is a joke, as there are always missing links between any two in an evolutionary line unless you find fossils of every single generation, which is impossible. "Missing Links" is a lame creationist shibboleth. Creationists are the ones with something "missing"!!

Anonymous said...

No beneficial mutations? Bacteria mutate to resist drugs. A bacterium has mutated to "eat" nylon (that's beneficial for the organisms concerned).

Anonymous said...

"on a daily basis “permitted to pray over the loudspeaker for all school children to hear.”

GASP! The inhumanity! Next thing you know, they'll be taking children to churches and making them "live like Christians" for two weeks. (Oh, yeah -- that's for islam.)

Anonymous said...

Sig already answered your question, "Christianity". Please be more observant before you post.

2:37 AM

I am your district coordinator and expect your proof-of-church-attendance on my desk by tomorrow morning.

Anonymous said...

It's well know how Islam treats non-believers and "sinners" - with punishments very similar to those found in the Bible!