Monday, October 10, 2011

"Hate speech" from Pastor Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association?

The following quote has been condemned by Mitt Romney and just about everyone to the Left of him.
I believe we need a president who understands that just as Islam represents the greatest long term threat to our liberty so the homosexual agenda represents the greatest immediate threat to every freedom and right that is enshrined in the First Amendment, it's a particularly threat to religious liberty....

We need a president who understands that every advance of the homosexual agenda comes at the expense of religious liberty. We need a president who understands that we must choose as a nation between homosexuality and liberty, because we cannot have both. A president who understands that we must choose between homosexuality and liberty, and who will choose liberty every time.

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It sounds to me like a reasonable summary of the way Christian views on homosexuality have been and are persecuted. The triumph of Leftist views about homosexuality has indeed led to a great loss of freedom for Christians.

6 comments:

Brian from Rochester said...

Anonymous 2:19,

You're missing the whole point here. Look at the news of the student suspended because he dared to state to another student that he believes homosexuality is wrong. The teacher overreacted, as did the school, simply because he stated his opinion. Where it derives from, in this case his religion, does not matter. What matters is that his opinion should be tolerated, but it was not.

Others who believe that homosexuality is wrong based on their faith are instantly labeled homophobic and slapped with accusations of hate crimes.

Meanwhile, our own representatives are making far more grievous statements against those who oppose them and are given a pass.

There is no Christian agenda to set up a theocracy. There is only the opposite: Those who seek to silence religious expression. Remember, Christianity is not the same as Catholicism.

Christ preached tolerance, forgiveness, and brotherhood. Those who refer only to the Old Testament passages when condemning such things as homosexuality are not the rule, but the exception. And it is this exception that is continually highlighted by the media.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me". Too many have forgotten this old adage.

Anonymous said...

okay 2:59. The preacher was making a lot of specific points for public consumption with intended effect (which is what I was addressing); whereas the schoolboy's private comment and the school's reaction (if properly reported) does seem an over-reaction to an apparently vague passing comment between two kids.
However, if people believe homosexuality is wrong, then they are free not to practise it, and leave others to decide whether they want to or not. I never come across homosexuals who say people should not be Christians and it shouldn't be allowed, or that marriage between heterosexuals is wrong. But I have heard some heterosexuals say "marriage" in principle is wrong!

Bird of Paradise said...

He knows the dangers of mulitculteralism and open borders and what islam is realy about

Dean said...

2:19 Your response to Pastor Fischer is a good example of his point.

Over and over those who express opposition to homosexuality are muzzled and punished, their right to free speech removed.

It seems that homosexual activists wish to silence anyone who's opinion doesn't match theirs. In fact, it seems the entire left has that goal.

Fortunately the First Amendment gives everyone the right to express their opinion. Further, it makes no distinction between private and public speech in the matter.

Pastor Fischer makes some statements I find outrageous, or maybe just ridiculous. Nevertheless, he has the right to make those statements.

TheOldMan said...

I'm a bit unlcear about the choice between homosexuality and liberty. You are free to be a homosexual and I am free to consider it a perverted lifestyle. You don't push it as a normal lifestyle, I don't try to force you to change. You are happy, I am happy, what's the problem?

Anonymous said...

What matters is whether you want the normalisation of homosexulaity foisted on your children at the public schools they attend.

To refuse is again.... "Bigotry" and "hatred" in the words of activist social engineers, many who don't, won't or can't have children.

The innocence of children needs to be protected, no matter which particular pious and sancitmonious Prig this happens to offend. No further justification is required.